I've seen this "Bring stuff in-line" a 100 dozen times so far. What I think it fails to mention is that fighters were in-line to begin with, you just want to make the line narrower.

Well T2 fighters have resists. Its only that they have resists that are completely the oposite of what the NPC you use them against are fireing at it.

I mean, the skill ceiling is apparently being raised, which might be a bad thing if you multibox or don't like paying attention, but overall no this is not the carrier ratting apocalypse.

Remember that EVE is a game and most of us are not teenagers without a worry in the world. Having main income source in 0.0 require insane amount of effort and concentration will just lead to burn out and people dropping the game.

There should be a balance and not just going to extremes.

I can see it now. Coming soon to this very thread:

"BUT BUT THAT MEANS I HAVE TO GIVE UP A HIGH SLOT...GRRRR CCCP"

WTS Thanatos, Chimera, Nidhoggur, eve online account.

So what was the fuking point of collecting feedback (which was fairly unanimous, a pair of trolls aside), if this change still goes in as it is?

Don't need walls of bubbles to carrier rat safely, just a good intel network.

A lot of people are asking that very thing actually. Put out an EHP increase for fighters, better resists, "something" with this change. Rather than the hard bat then fixes, why not balance it before release?

Where did you guys got that drones stop moving after killing target? Because as far as my drones behave, they just slowly return to my ship in orfer to orbit it. And this should be default behaviour for fighters also. They should act excactly like drones in every way except mechanics that are fighters specific and have separate commands. So if you would like to have fighters stand in place after kill there should be separate command for this. It would be less confusing.

Just to touch on this, it wouldn't be that big of a fix actually. Actual SHIP mechanics have you continue to fly in the direction you're going when an orbit target is lost. This wouldn't take more than a code copy to fix the broken mechanic. Even THIS would be more desirable than standing still, even if it spreads the squadrons apart.

CCP: "We want your feedback on this."
Literally everyone: "This sucks. Don't do it."
CCP: "How bout I do anyway."

Nice to see this pattern hasn't changed in my extended absence.

For the majority among those who PLEX their account, the only thing less likely to happen, when the carpet is removed under their feet, than quitting eve, is subscribing.

So finally got some time to play with the Burst projector changes... Went off to an anom and tested the "Target Illumination Burst Projector".

I'm left with.... hmmm... what's the point? Granted this is PVE.... cause ya know, not like I'm going to play/test right off in a PVP battle. So I put the target burst right in the middle of the rats and all the rats kept chasing after my fighters and I noticed basically nothing in increased DPS from the fighters.

I'm left with, "is this thing even working, at all?"

Anyway.. I'll equip and test the others as I get time to do so. Leaving a big "meh" so what feeling at present tho.

Perhaps I made this character for the specific reasons of being salty on forums ~

Or perhaps it's one lucky twist of fate!

And I don't make threats, simply made note of the fact that it may be a violation of existing consumer acts, and with respect to the account not being sub'd, it's not a threat if I've already cancelled it and started using my time on other games already.

And if people wish to ignore the sound suggestion to balance, then that's fine but anyone who is looking at forums for feedback should fully expect to get the following:

1) Salt
2) Trolls

and probably needs to be able to still read comments objectively.

P.S. I'd have described Black Salt as the Edgiest of Salts but

When you sign a contract with a companie for a service, they can change some rules of the service if they 're eula said they can. BUT if the accesibility of the service change due to this it's against consumer act.

Best solution imo for capital ratting would be to simply add new anomaly type (or tweak sanctums) so they have less small ships and have more capital ships. It does not even need to be worth much more income per tick than havens now - just require less clicking overall because the way it is now is really too much. Many people are playing eve because it does not require so many clicking and running around like other games.
Not to mention that would be fun to have more really big ship fights - I came to this game for this.

Brings up a good point.

If the goal was to make carrier ratting more of a challenge it should be done with challenging content and not making the challenge more of a click fest. Making the user click faster isn't a "challenge". If the goal is to make carrier ratting more engaging then make some new ratting sites with harder things to kill. ie other caps.

And ya the heavy fighters could use more HP. In PVP they are way to easy to alpha off the field.

Yes but if we want play game with you must do a lot of apm we don"t play to eve.
We we have sign for play we have sign for an other accessibility of game. So if ccp want to change it they can ... they mist paid (and not only give back money of time who yu have on account).

Sure! If the Fun / Risk / Reward balance is good. Most certainly.

Doesn't have to be Carrier/Super ratting, CCP have already said they want the end-game of Null PvE to be more group focused. Content that requires a group to be run is inherently harder to because you need to organize the group, and you need people you can rely on.

Case and point is Incursions. They make almost as much as a mediocre Carrier Ratting pilot per hour but you need to rely on 39 other pilots knowing what they're doing, especially the Logi, or you can quite easily lose your ship, and that's without factoring in player interference. Create something like that in Null but make it permanent local content instead of a roving spawn system and you could quite reasonably dial up the risk, rewards, and general difficulty of the PvE for pilots in Null without throwing the whole game's economy out of whack.

Besides it doesn't need to be a huge difference in payouts. Players will always gravitate towards the highest possible payout so long as the Risk/Reward balance isn't obviously out of whack.

Legal procedure is starting for the game accessibility change.
We will see.